Midterms 2026: The Truth About Lawfare, Political Promises & Voter Turnout

Jack Moore: More to consider, Jack and Charles. Please like, subscribe, share, comment, do all those kind of great things. we're doing a show today on something that Charles just found and wanted to talk about. We're approaching it's August now. We're a few days into August. And before you know it, like we know, we're about ninety days or so away from the election, the midterm election. So that's coming. That's the eighth month. That's the eleventh month. Yeah. So we're looking at about three months, ninety days. And we're gonna have these elections. So you found what we're getting ready to play this clip kind of fascinating about Mike Johnson. What did you have to say on that, Charles?

Charles: it was interesting hearing Mike Johnson talk about what would happen if the Democrats were to win the midterms and how he's afraid.

Jack Moore: Let's hear that. Let's

Charles: And yeah.

Jack Moore: hear what he had to say. So

Charles: Hm.

Jack Moore: that's the clip.

Charles: Yeah.

Jack Moore: On the one hand, he's talking about the dire need to win because of the potential danger to even people in that room. And I think it was Turning Point USA, I think was the the place where he was speaking. But so he's given a rally, the troops, I think, kind of thing here, a rally around we gotta win the midterm because of the bad things that could happen to the base, so to speak, and the president's family and other like minded Republicans. But don't worry about it, we're gonna win. I think that's kinda what he said at the end, right? But don't worry

Charles: So well

Jack Moore: about

Charles: no but he needs to be worried. 'Cause they're not gonna win. Yeah.

Jack Moore: Well, I think he d yeah, I think he is too.

Charles: But what he's saying I think is just really condescending to the the voters, is that, hey, we didn't do anything for you, but we kinda need you to do something for us and keep us employed, or else we're gonna end up getting in trouble.

Jack Moore: Yeah.

Charles: That's pretty much what he said. And honestly, it would be nice to see somebody go to jail. The Republicans said if you vote for us, the Epstein people gonna go to jail and blah blah blah blah blah and none of it happened. So you know what? Fine. Hope you go to jail. You should have d you should've did what you said you're gonna do.

Jack Moore: Well, all right, Charles, I don't think you believe that. Charles, if the Democrats were to make up stuff, if they were to use quote unquote lawfare again and make up stuff and push the limits of what's really criminal behavior to throw Republicans in jail just because they failed to vote on things that you think they should have, do you you'd really be okay with that? Okay. All right, that's that's fine. I I

Charles: Yep, I'll be okay. And a and a whole bunch of people would be. Yeah.

Jack Moore: yeah yeah, I mean, I i I think what I I'm not so sure that what he's saying doesn't make a lot of sense if you put these people back in charge. They are going to be in a situation they're going to use every agency and every aspect they can to try to attempt to destroy these Republicans. I agree. But I don't think they should be thrown in jail to the degree they didn't do anything that was really criminal. It's just all retribution.

Charles: No, but

Jack Moore: Yeah, go ahead.

Charles: if it's criminal that it they they deserve to go to jail. And honestly, if it if they were really concerned

Jack Moore: I don't disagree. I don't disagree, but do okay.

Charles: if they were really concerned about it, they should have done what they said they were gonna do. But they didn't. And so they really put themselves in this position.

Jack Moore: Well, what you're saying is they've put themselves in a position for potential lawfare to be used to incarcerate them for things which aren't truly criminal. I mean, you would agree with me, right, that there was a lot of things brought up against Trump that had him in a courtroom. He was literally in a courtroom. He even had a mug shot taken, which I think actually helped him. There were mud sh the mugshots taken of him, which turned into t shirts and other things. Do you not

Charles: Yeah. Yep.

Jack Moore: think at least a lot of that was at least a portion, if not all? was bullshit and it really skirted the lines of what the criminal justice system supposed to be.

Charles: Well well hold on but I'm I have to talk about if and focus on what Mike Johnson is saying. Okay.

Jack Moore: Okay, what's Mike Johnson saying?

Charles: We need your help or else we're gonna get investigated and potentially go to jail. Alright, sorry, you're not getting the help.

Jack Moore: Don't disagree with that. I was talking about your reaction. You were like, and if they go to jail, hell with them kind of thing. And I'm saying, I don't think you I know you well

Charles: Yeah, exac yeah. Yeah, that's how I feel about them.

Jack Moore: enough, I don't think you'd be supportive of them going to jail for things that were manufactured that really weren't crimes.

Charles: Well, the thing is, how do we even know that they're gonna be manufactured?

Jack Moore: I didn't say that we necessarily know. I said, we

Charles: Okay.

Jack Moore: know the track record, though. We know there was coordination among different places in the United States to go after Trump in courtrooms. We know

Charles: Right. Right.

Jack Moore: these people were meeting in the White House. They

Charles: Mm-hmm.

Jack Moore: were doing coordinated efforts to get Trump out of the election. We

Charles: Right.

Jack Moore: know that. So I don't know that they won't. I think what Mike Johnson's saying is they could very well do the same thing. And I'm like, to the degree.

Charles: Too bad.

Jack Moore: That the Democrats meant I you're saying too bad, but y would you really be okay with people being incarcerated for things that

Charles: Dude dude, this is what I'm this this is what I'm saying as Joe Q public who supported these clowns.

Jack Moore: Mm-hmm.

Charles: If you were that concerned about another party getting in control and potentially putting you in in jail for some BS, maybe you should have done your job while you were in office. Tha that's what we're saying.

Jack Moore: Okay.

Charles: What happens to you after that may again, maybe should have thought about doing something while you were in office. But

Jack Moore: All right. Okay, so what you're saying is if there are if there are charges brought, criminal convictions and potentially what? What are you saying then?

Charles: No no no no no no no no what I'm saying is I don't care about them because they should have done something they should have done something to prevent this from happening in the first place. That's what what I'm saying.

Jack Moore: All right, but when you say okay, th l then let's define what you mean by you don't care. So I said okay, so you're saying that if if people end up

Charles: I've just said it. I don't care.

Jack Moore: comm if end up being convicted of crimes they really didn't truly commit or don't meet the real legal standard for a crime, you're okay with that because they didn't vote the way you wanted to.

Charles: No, what I what I'm saying is they didn't do what they said they were gonna do. And that's all I'm saying.

Jack Moore: I understand that. I'm I'm giving you that. If you're saying they're half assed in their effort to get the legislation passed, don't have a disagreement. But if you're saying then mm hmm. Okay.

Charles: And if they and if they didn't half ask themsel hold on if they didn't do that, they wouldn't be in this position to be railroaded. But that's what they did.

Jack Moore: So once again, what once again, you're okay with the railroading because they put themselves in that position because they didn't follow through on what they promised.

Charles: No, no. I how about this? I understand why they why they would get railroaded and you know what? Right now I don't care. Yeah, I don't care. Yeah.

Jack Moore: Okay. I I g look, I would be I I would be fine to say if legislators made promises they didn't follow up on and they got run out of office, got it. Okay. The voters came

Charles: Yeah. Yeah.

Jack Moore: and said, you know what, I'm not going to follow that anymore. I'm not going to follow that promise. I'm not going to vote for you. But I don't

Charles: Mm-hmm.

Jack Moore: like another step of an yeah, if the new Congress or the new legislators want to skirt the lines of justice. And bring retribution upon these p I I'm I'm okay with that too. They deserve it. I'm not o I'm

Charles: Two D.

Jack Moore: never okay with people. I'm just not. I'm never okay with people serving time or being punished for things that don't meet a certain standard just because screw they didn't do a good job when they were in Congress. That's just me,

Charles: Well,

Jack Moore: but

Charles: now I hear what you're saying. I understand where you're coming from. But my thing is this. This didn't well, not that it's happening already. It even being a potential of happening wouldn't be the case if they had just done what they say they're gonna do. So I put the vast majority of the blame on them.

Jack Moore: Well, if you're okay, if you're saying it's distasteful that a member of the United States House of Representatives, the

Charles: Mm.

Jack Moore: Speaker of the House, is making an appeal to vote for us to protect our ass from retribution. I agree. That's very distasteful. It's it's a very weak

Charles: It's very that yeah.

Jack Moore: pl I don't disagree with that. And that

Charles: Okay.

Jack Moore: might be very much a reason for I'm not going to vote for the bastards anymore, especially when they come in here whining about protect me from the evil that might come be coming

Charles: Mm.

Jack Moore: down the line. Okay, I agree. Distasteful, maybe another reason not to vote for but I don't want to see any lawfare brought about where they go after these people because they were the opposition and now they have control.

Charles: It well wouldn't you wouldn't you say that you and I can understand what what's going to happen potentially if the Democrats get in control?

Jack Moore: if they get in control, they're absolutely gonna go overboard

Charles: Okay.

Jack Moore: again, doing the very kind of thing they did when they had control twenty one to twenty five.

Charles: Okay, so the Republicans who had the opportunity to do something while they were in office they couldn't figure that out either?

Jack Moore: That seems to be the playbook, I mean that seems to be the history.

Charles: Well, too bad. Too bad, man. Sorry. It's not that it's not that I want to see them go to jail. I'm just like too bad. Yeah, you

Jack Moore: Okay.

Charles: had the opportunity to prevent this from happening. You didn't do a damn thing. So or whatever.

Jack Moore: Okay. Yeah, I mean, if that that that's a position to take. Again, I never feel comfortable with anyone being convicted, charges brought, r lives harassed, but you know, legal fees out the ass and all the rest because they didn't do such a good job in Congress, or they couldn't get another other other people together to vote correctly or vote the way that certain people want. That's all well and good.

Charles: Yeah.

Jack Moore: I don't think that because a group of people regain power. They ought to have carte blanche to just go ahead and ruin the lives of people. Either party. I mean, right or left.

Charles: If some of the Epstein people had gone to jail, really, then I seriously doubt that more people should I say if some of the Epstein people had gone to jail, I think they would start to get some sympathy. They're not getting it. So if somebody's going to jail and it just happens to be them because they didn't do anything, sorry.

Jack Moore: Okay, I I I again I I look at everything as being it it it has to be building blocks to get to a point. So if I run for the member I run as a member of the House of Representatives and I win. And I'm in a body of four hundred and thirty five people and we've got a one, two member majority and we got a Senate to deal with as well to get stuff passed. And nothing ever gets through. And now this side that takes over wants to come after me and Charles says, Hey, hell with you, hang your ass in the s the public square. I don't care. You didn't get this stuff passed. I think a lot of members of the house would be like, I tried my best. I think there once some that that did and they could never get the numbers. I don't think it necessarily means that certain members didn't try to do their best. But I don't wanna hm. Okay.

Charles: He's a speaker. He's a speaker. He had a lot of control. W we know that the speaker has a lot of control when it comes to which bills actually make to the to the floor for

Jack Moore: Right.

Charles: a vote.

Jack Moore: if you're saying that Johnson's half-assed or didn't do a very good job and all the rest, that's fine. I just draw

Charles: Yeah. Yep.

Jack Moore: the line of I can't I can't support or be behind that that type of use of the j justice system is used to attack people just because they got back in power. And I think where this is going is I don't know, I don't know where the country's going with all this, but it it seems like it's a back and forth related to who's in power. I think what happened between 21 and 25, especially as it related to Trump, has created an environment. And you know, one of the things too that I think was a strong play. I think if you're going to be political animals as some of these are, and I mean animals in the sense that they're political and they're in the wild and this is the survival of the fittest, it's interesting that the attacks on Trump. I think we're orchestrated. And like I said, there's a lot of visits to the White House. There seemed to be a lot of orchestration. There seemed to be a lot of planning and coordinating efforts to put him away for 700 years and all the charges and all the rest, both civil and criminal. So with that being said, what that left was January of 2025, and I saw it in the media. There were talks of well now that Trump's back in office. He's going to use lawfare to attack these poor Democrats who are merely doing their job when some of the people that were involved in the attacks on Trump really did break the law. Like, I mean, there were laws broken, clearly. Then you get into you do it in a certain time frame. You're the part of the team that does it. And then your cover when you're out of power is, you're not going to be nasty enough to do retribution, are you? And it could be what they did. was over and above the law or outside painting outside the lines. And then when it's brought back that the other group is in s in the into power, they can't even go back and properly bring to justice the people that did things outside the lines because the comeback's gonna be, okay, more and more of this is only going to set the country further and further behind. And I think

Charles: So

Jack Moore: that I think the Trump, I think the Trump administration, I don't think there's been a lot of front page news about them attacking people. I know some states have gone after some of these actors.

Charles: Right, but specifically talking about Congress. Cause they're the ones that like to call these in these hearings and stuff like that. Do I'm gonna use a a a sports analogy, football.

Jack Moore: Do it.

Charles: So you have team A who's the Democrats, you have Team B who are the the Republicans.

Jack Moore: Mm-hmm.

Charles: Team A has a football. And they fumble the football. And what the Democrats will do is go after that ball. The Republicans will just sit there and look at it. They won't try to go after it. Well, now it's the Democrats, I'm sorry, the Republicans' time to have the ball and they fumble it. But the Democrats are gonna go after it. The Republicans are just gonna stand and say, Well, I didn't go after it, so I don't expect the other side to go after it. No, dummy, that's how you lose. And that's exactly what the Republicans are doing. They they're trying to be all nicey and all this other good stuff. Saying, well, you know, if we don't do this, maybe the Democrats won't do it next time. No, they will do it. For sure.

Jack Moore: Well, that's kinda what I think I think we just said some of the same thing right there that yes, there is some dirty play sometimes. And I but again, I I think the the mindset of the actions by the Democrat Party was do the nasties twenty one to twenty five, go after Trump, try to keep him from ever running again. You know, some states out there trying to play the Fourteenth Amendment, the insurrection thing and all the rest. you know, the The clause from the 14th Amendment related to those who had brought insurrection against the United States. And again, another clause from the Civil War, post-Civil War. But anyway, they they tried to keep him off the ballot, couldn't run again, all this type of thing. So you have all that. And they go to the mat with what seems to be very orchestrated attempts to ruin Trump. Like him or not. I mean, that's what was happening. And again, there were a lot of commentators who were no fans of of Trump. Not at all. Matter of fact, Alan Derschwitz, I heard, break this down quite a bit, you know, like that's over the line, and this is not quite right. And there was a lot said about there were a lot of dirty, dirty dealings as it related to Trump. Okay, like him or not, that's what happens. So now you come back, he w he wins election again. He, you know, he has this Grover Cleveland separation between his first and second term. So now he's in. There are some that would think or say. Man, he ought to go after every bad person who ever did him wrong in this whole ordeal. But what's the press saying? The press like, well, clearly he won't weaponize the Justice Department and come after all these poor people that were just trying to do the right thing. Yeah. I know that, but what Johnson's,

Charles: Well hold on a moment. We're talking about two din different entities. You're talking about Trump.

Jack Moore: I know, but Johnson opened with, they're going to come after the poor president and his family, and we're also going to be in the crosshairs.

Charles: No, I no no. No. That no that's BS. And and not not from no no no, not from not not from your

Jack Moore: Bullshit. That's what he said. You can say it's bullshit, but that's what he said.

Charles: point of view. What he he's saying that because what he's trying to say is, yeah, we're just doing what Trump we're on team Trump. Actually you're not. You're not on Team Trump. He's trying to get people now, understand

Jack Moore: Yeah, but but it is midterm time. It is

Charles: it I understand his midterm Thompson. He is being very I'm not even called a childish. He is he's a in

Jack Moore: Dramatic.

Charles: my dramatic is an understatement. He is

Jack Moore: Okay.

Charles: literally begging for people to vote

Jack Moore: Yeah.

Charles: for him and to essentially give him an excuse for not doing the things that they that we put them in office to do in the first place.

Jack Moore: Well, he's not making that nexus, but I get your point. It's it's kind of like, hey, what's at stake here is us getting our ass potentially thrown in jail and attacks on the president and his family. I'm not going

Charles: Yeah. Yeah, okay, so what?

Jack Moore: to address the fact that you have some righteous anger against me in the party. I'm not I'm not addressing that. I'm just

Charles: Okay.

Jack Moore: saying, look at the consequence of you not voting for us and how that affects us. I agree with all that. I agree with that.

Charles: And and the

Jack Moore: I think that's exactly what the message was.

Charles: And the Democrats, if you think about it in your analogy when it comes to Trump, the Democrats were going after political enemies. The Republicans, again, which they were put in office for, were actually going af what said they're going to go after people who had done bad things to children. Not just political enemies. Because if if they say they're gonna go after political enemies, we're fine, yeah, whatever, man. We don't need to keep going back and forth. No, you said you're gonna go after the worst of the worst, and you didn't do a thing. All right, well fine. Your opponent's about to go after you again. And too bad. That's how we feel about it.

Jack Moore: Well, again, I draw the line at you lose your job or you lose your position in Congress, you lose the election, fine. That's great. that's fine. Cause I think that's how the system is supposed to work. But to go any farther to trump up charges against people that have just been run out of office to get some, you know, some other pound of flesh from those people and being okay with that, no, I'm not okay with that. But again, I wasn't okay with the attack on any Democrats. That didn't have it coming legally. If there was a leg, if there was a case to be built legally, you know, and this is what I think I'm being consistent, like with the whole discussion we had about Fauci. By the way, to kind of cover that too, because we're not too many minutes into this, one of the things I'm seeing now that's another whole lane of analysis, and I think it has a a really good point on the whole Fauci pleading the fifth, is there a commentators saying, I hadn't really even thought about this. When he took the oath. He took the oath and then he gave a statement. There are commentators now saying that when he started to give a statement, he opened himself to questions. That's where he weighed the Fifth Amendment. That his lawyers should have better advised him. You're going to have to stand up and they're going to swear you in. Swear you in, say nothing. Let him ask the first question, plead the fifth. Because he did. There is there there is, and I thought about this, there is the point that making the opening statement, which I guess he had every right to wave, he did say the thing about, hey, and Rand Paul has had a hard on for me all this time. You know, he made that statement that these are like unfair. Well, he's making assertions. And I don't know. I mean, I started to think about that, like, you know, hey, maybe, but anyway, what I was gonna say, I've been consistent. I'm not a fan of Fauci. I don't think I've been able to express yet. How much of a fan I'm not of Fauci, and how I think that most allegations that have been made against him are true. But I think he had every right to plead the fifth. So if you ask me, do I think that Anthony Fauci, even at the age of 85, should receive punishment if he were duly charged and properly convicted and all the rest? Yeah, I wouldn't have a problem with that at all. I wouldn't have a problem if there was financial fines involved with how much he may have benefited financially from this whole ordeal and maybe others. So I do think he has abused his power and his office, and that there should be, even at the age of 85, a penalty. But if he averted said penalty by pleading the fifth, I don't have problem with that either. I don't have a problem with it. It was his right to do so. But I'm not opposed to him being punished because I think that there might be something that's cognizant in that or, you know, that. He might have a history that deserves that or would align with a proper use of the justice system to come after him. But I'm also fine with the fact that he may walk on the whole thing and may have sat right there in the Senate, in that Senate hearing, and pled the fifth and got away with it all. I mean, because that's part of how the system works. But I don't want to see, I wouldn't want to have seen. Trump win in twenty twenty four, take office in twenty five, and they go after a figure like him simply because he's a figure that they don't like or something. I think there's plenty of material there. They didn't have to do that. But that's how it's being spun, but go ahead.

Charles: Yeah, but yeah, I hear what you're saying, man. I I I hear what you're saying, but the Republicans knew who their opponent is. They didn't do anything to prepare for their opponent to not get back in power.

Jack Moore: Who's their opponent in that sense? What are you saying?

Charles: The Democrats.

Jack Moore: Well, yeah, the party and the members of. I thought you meant like

Charles: Yeah. And they did.

Jack Moore: the boogeyman or something that they were like, you know who the you okay, when you said like who the enemy

Charles: No. No, the the Democrats.

Jack Moore: right, the Democrat. Okay.

Charles: They did nothing to prepare for them not to get back in power. Nothing. And they're wondering why they're gonna lose. That's why, 'cause you've done nothing.

Jack Moore: No, if you were gonna say in the well, if you're gonna say in the last eighteen months a reasonable view of the Republican Party has not been impressive, I'd absolutely agree with you. Absolutely. And I don't think Trump's helped at all either.

Charles: Yeah, there you go. And he and and they want us to vote for them? You haven't done anything.

Jack Moore: To keep them protected from potential lawfare is what it sounds like. And I think that's a bad look. I agree with you. I think it's a bad look. But I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that things the justice system will be greatly expanded, skirted, whatever you want to say, to go after particular people of a particular political persuasion. I don't think that's out of the realm of possibility. I think it's a likelihood. But if you're

Charles: Yes.

Jack Moore: saying you find it again, if you find it distasteful. That that is your platform. If you're running on the fact, I don't want my ass to go to jail because the bad guys might come in and take over and do b bad things to me, I could I could understand the mindset of that. But again, if you're saying, but I think you're in that position because you're a great failure to the cause that you said that you were going to support, I

Charles: Ex Yes.

Jack Moore: get it.

Charles: It's your own doing. And you want my help. No, I'm not giving you.

Jack Moore: Well, it won't be their it won't be their own doing that they might necessarily get bad, you know, legal outcomes because the other guys go rogue. But the fact that they're not gonna be back in office to avoid that, you could say clearly is their undoing.

Charles: Dude. I thought about this early today that How i how many people are gonna vote for the Republicans solely for the fact that they just hate Democrats? It's gonna be a lot of people. Unfortunately, we're back to the lesser two evils again. It's just evil. So why do e either one

Jack Moore: Well one

Charles: of them deserve your vote?

Jack Moore: Yeah, well one thing we address a lot, I think we have addressed a lot when it comes to this idea of voting for the the individual, the candidate, or voting against the candidate. But the other w big wild card, I mean we've talked about it a lot is often I think the elections are most greatly not is the term exactly what I'm gonna swung. the the the things that are gonna be most determinative probably of the election is who chooses not to vote. Cause a lot of a lot of times it comes down to outcome. And so it

Charles: Yes. Yeah, that

Jack Moore: and it comes to motivation. And if you were going to say MAGA, and we we did a whole show a couple of months ago about what percent of re people that identified as Republican, what percent of them had also identified as MAGA. And it had been cut in half over a period of time, something like that. It was cut in half that percentage. So we were saying, we were making that point. I think it was valid that if you went to MAGA people and say, well, what percent of MAGA people still support Trump and support MAGA? 100%. Yeah, 100% that's still identified as MAGA. But from where MAGA started, only half of the people that once identified as MAGA now identified as MAGA. So I say all that to say I think what's going to be the downfall of the Republicans in November is so many rank and file Republicans not showing up. I don't think they're going to vote.

Charles: This this is

Jack Moore: I don't think they're gonna vote Democrat.

Charles: Th this is gonna be one of those elections that it's not gonna be who switched parties or affiliations. It's

Jack Moore: Right, right. It's gonna be who shows up.

Charles: gonna be who's not even gonna vote at all.

Jack Moore: Right. Right.

Charles: And I would love to see this on a ballot. Of course we're never we're never getting get a chance to see it. Can you imagine if we did have a Republican, Democrat or neither? on the ballot. I would love to see that one. Just like I've always wondered how many how many votes does Mickey Mouse get every election cycle? Just as a protest. I would love to see that.

Jack Moore: Well, there's definitely a number. Yeah.

Charles: Because I I'm sure and I but but I guarantee that number is so high that the Republicans and Democrats don't want you to see it. Because that people's we shall say dissatisfaction with the two of them I'm sure is much higher than that what than what they're reporting.

Jack Moore: Well, there is that phenomenon too. I know you've heard it. It's I I think I've heard it since childhood. there has historically been, at least for decades, a very probably probably three to four decades, right? Probably from the eighties, maybe you go back further, but there is tended to be in national polling, pretty much a distaste for Congress, mem the House, members of the House of Representatives. And yet The same people that would say, I have a disfavorable opinion of the House of Representatives, they like their member of the House. So you multiply that across the country. 435 seats, and people would say, I kind of like my congressman. What do you think of Congress is awful? But the very people so so we know there are members of Congress that you and I would agree, like, how in the hell did that person ever get into this political

Charles: Mm.

Jack Moore: position or elected? But there's gotta be somebody in that district that's voting for.

Charles: I I think I think that was more the case when we didn't have the amount of information exchange that we have today. I think that was the case.

Jack Moore: Yeah. Yeah.

Charles: Because would I vote for my current representative? hell no. And he I'm he's never gotten my vote

Jack Moore: Yeah, you never have, yeah.

Charles: but I would vote for Massey.

Jack Moore: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you are in a

Charles: So I

Jack Moore: unique situation. Yeah, because I've always liked my member of the Congress because I've actually known him for a number of years and I like him. And unless they shift the line somehow, he'll probably still remain in Congress. I see a lot of attack ads against him right now, like some pretty serious stuff. And they just don't line up with who I think he is, but whatever. you know, there's a bunch of billionaire types. that's the Democrat move, you know, so it it is in the Commonwealth of Virginia. They're on there saying that this person that I know personally pretty well is there for the fat cats. You know, it's the whole fat cat argument. You know, my my electric bill just went up because of this member of Congress. And then there's some lady crying at the table because they can't make ends meet and they can't buy groceries. And it's it's that Republican member of the House who's there for the billionaire fat cats. Jimmy, you realize he's there for the billionaire. And Jimmy's like, you damn right, the guy's there for the fat cats. And I'm like, is he? I don't know. You know, give

Charles: Right.

Jack Moore: me give me a little bit more information. But it, but it plays well. It it plays well. some of our some of our campaigns or some of the elections and in the last two decades and some of the campaign ads have been really amazing. How far they'll go. you know, just kind of really over the top. And yet, as we mentioned, we

Charles: Yeah, I agree.

Jack Moore: had we had a governor when discovered that which was in his yearbook at his medical school. He came kind of came out of that unscathed, I remember, right?

Charles: Yes, he did. He I mean

Jack Moore: So

Charles: they they had a hard time recognizing the guy 'cause he had a hood on. But that's okay. Yes. Mm mm. Yeah.

Jack Moore: That's true. That is true. That is true. Yeah, so that yeah, that seems to be a reasonable why it's showing up on your page of identification of you and your youth or background and how you got to that point, but there was a lot of mental gym gymnastics there. There was a lot of bending over backwards to find well, everybody has a page like that. Really? Okay.

Charles: Right.

Jack Moore: Maybe Yeah. So anyway, but but the what was the one I shouldn't even bring this up without better. But you remember there was one in Virginia. And it was in, I'm gonna say probably election cycle, maybe three cycles ago. And I can't remember if it was lieutenant governor or governor, but it was the car with all of the like Nazi symbols, Confederate flag or whatever, and it's like riding through a neighborhood trying to run over random children or something like that.

Charles: I don't remember that one.

Jack Moore: Yeah. And So this piece came up and it said, if this guy becomes fill in the blank, whichever we want to roll, it was really over the top, but it's like a redneck running around. This is the guy that votes. So the so it has this particular candidates, bumper stickers on the car, along with the like a Confederate battle flag across the back, Nazi symbols, you know, you name it. and the guy's riding around and he's literally trying to take out people who don't look like him with his vehicle. yeah. You don't remember that? I gotta do some research on that. But then it was kind of like if you vote for this person, this will be the Virginia that you now live in. Yeah. And so, that's again, I was gonna say it's a decade ago. I think it was, well, now Trump's a decade ago going in. Well, his announcement, it it might have fallen in the same timeframe of when Trump really gets done. Yeah, I think it was. It was probably inspired a little bit like. on every other he's a racist or a fascist or a Nazi or whatever. It was kind of like to so the the depths that they'll go in election or in campaign ads is pretty crazy. You know, they'll they'll go pretty good route of of making allegations that are pretty openly inflammatory. And I think I think

Charles: Yeah, that is true.

Jack Moore: peop people just gotten used to it, right? I mean this is kind of how

Charles: Unfortunately.

Jack Moore: that's just kind of how the season plays. All right, so

Charles: Yes.

Jack Moore: Summing all this up, more to consider. Please like and subscribe. Please comment. You tell us Charles's position, and I don't disagree, is the Republicans have screwed the pooch. Fair?

Charles: Yes.

Jack Moore: Got their opportunity. They win. Trump not only wins the Electoral College in 2024, he wins the popular vote. Not by a lot, but he does win the popular vote, which what since Bush 43 was the last time somebody won the popular vote for the Republicans

Charles: Right.

Jack Moore: and won the election. So it's kind of become a rarity. Only time a Republican's going to get elected, it seems now, is they gotta win the electoral college and they're probably gonna lose the popular vote. So we know New York, California, certain states are gonna go completely blue and so what? It's g it's a heavy population that runs up the popular vote, but still there's electoral college. Then they got the House and Senate narrowly. And your point would be, and I know the Save Act would be first on your list, but there were things and and you're going Epstein. So would you say that's really it? Kind of the do a better job with the Epstein files or whatever information should have been released about Epstein and you should have gotten the Save Act pass. Fair?

Charles: that and you said you're gonna be more fiscally responsible with our taxpayer money, but you keep giving it to Israel and Ukraine. Yeah. Yeah, that too. Yeah.

Jack Moore: and I think you'd also throw it, I'm not gonna fight new wars. Yeah, so yeah, wars, gas prices, which are the result of that. And I don't know how well Trump has come out on the tariff game either. You know, and I think there's economic

Charles: Mm-hmm.

Jack Moore: policies that you would agree. So even though I've seen in the last six weeks to six months or in the last six whatever, there has been a spin coming out of the White House that no, no, no, things are much better than you know. You're just not you're not aware of it yet, or kind of thing. And I don't think Americans feel that way. I don't. And I d I'd I man, I tell you what, if there was one index I think that You tell me, you see if if you go where I go. What do you think is like the number one day to day index on whether or not people think things are going okay for them survival wise?

Charles: Yeah. How things are going for the themselves.

Jack Moore: Yeah, we're sitting at the kitchen table.

Charles: Mm.

Jack Moore: Not that we're gonna play husband and wife, but no, we're sitting at the kitchen table. What's that number one thing you think grates at people the most about what is their economic situation right now?

Charles: how much of their check is going to just surviving?

Jack Moore: Yeah, and here's where I'm going. I'm not I'm being vague, but I was gonna ask you which one. I think it's gas. I think it's fuel. I I I do.

Charles: Well well I was yeah that i I I I thought about fuel but but food also. It's

Jack Moore: Yeah, but the food costs go up when it costs more to transport it. That's what I'm saying. Everything. Everything when it

Charles: Well, and yeah, it does.

Jack Moore: comes to transportation, when that cost that's why I think Americans feel a lot of other things happening, but they see it at the pump. It's a number. Like then they

Charles: Yes.

Jack Moore: get it at the grocery store, like, honey, you know, weren't these eggs this much? And now they're I mean, you you can have those conversations. But I just know, as a person who puts a lot of gas in the car, a lot, because I'm out constantly traveling. You kind of feel the mood of, okay, it's this and then when it becomes that and I do remember that twenty nineteen time frame when Trump really was doing some things well, I think, with the economy. What did it get down the low twos?

Charles: I have a picture of gas in Columbia, South Carolina. It was one fifty seven.

Jack Moore: And that was in twenty nineteen.

Charles: It was in twenty twenty twenty.

Jack Moore: right before COVID kicked in.

Charles: No. Mm mm. It was like a few months before the election.

Jack Moore: okay. And

Charles: Yeah.

Jack Moore: the okay. I I thought that already started to tick up with the COVID thing. I thought that already started causing some problems with whatever, but okay. But

Charles: N no, actually gas went down for rem if you remember, gas went down because the supply w

Jack Moore: Right.

Charles: went way up and the demand went way down.

Jack Moore: That's right, because that's true. People weren't moving. That's a good point. That's a good point.

Charles: Yeah.

Jack Moore: Yeah, that's true. I hadn't really thought about that, but yeah, now that you mention it, okay. But so once again, though, I do think that that, because you're feeling all things related to cost of transportation, movement of product, et cetera. So that's why I always think the fuel cost. And the one way that you get when you go to the pump, you you, you, it's right there in front of you. There's there's no

Charles: Right.

Jack Moore: way kind of so when you're when you're pump, pump, pump. Like I've drive I drive sedans and I think I had was it I think at most a sixteen gallon tank on a vehicle I had three, four years ago. And I remember I was in Florida and it's the first time I hit $75. It's when it made one of those other jumps. And you both you see it on the pump, but it's like the final number. Cause I'm gonna fill the car up, right? So I

Charles: Mm-hmm.

Jack Moore: filled the car up like boom, boom, boom, boom, like 3950. Hey, that's great, you know. But then when you hit it in 75, you know what I mean? It's like when you see the 75 up there, you're like, son of a bitch, I've I've paid $75 to fill my car. And then I talk to friends

Charles: Yeah, see.

Jack Moore: that, you know, have huge trucks. yeah, try 118 or 137. That's my trucker

Charles: Right.

Jack Moore: voice. But you know what I mean? I'm talking gas. I'm not talking diesel. I'm talking about people with big ass tanks on vehicles. And they're talking about a, you know, $150 event to fill up. And it's like, damn. But

Charles: It makes no sense, man.

Jack Moore: Yeah, especially when you're getting poor mileage on something that large. All right, close this out for us. What you got?

Charles: they don't deserve our votes. You have to earn it. It is just not given. That's it.

Jack Moore: All right. Well, my thing would be like, yeah, I I agree I agree with you. If you've made particular political promises, you haven't come through those political promises, don't be surprised with the fact that you are probably going to lose in the coming election season. Now the question would be again, I don't support and and I don't think Charles does either. I don't support an attack on Republicans on the other side of this election simply because they lost and the use of lawfare. use of the justice system, whatever, in a way to attack people unjustly. But I think that might be coming, you know? And

Charles: Yes.

Jack Moore: I but again, in the end, to boil it all down, I think it was highly distasteful for Mike Johnson to

Charles: Mm-hmm.

Jack Moore: use that particular scenario to say, hey guys, you got to bail us out. I know we've screwed up. I know we haven't done everything we said we were going to do, but keep us out of jail. Thank you very much. And God bless America. I I don't think that's a good message. All right, brother. God bless you, man. Take care.

Charles: No, it's not. Hi, Bra, you too.

Jack Moore: Take care. Bye bye.