Is MAGA's Support for Trump Fading?

Moore To Consider: Welcome to More to Consider, Jack and Chuck. Charles how are you, brother?

Charles Hundley Jnr: ⁓ doing just f fa fine. A little tongue tied today.

Moore To Consider: I so I guess if we're gonna do a show and I'm gonna let you start tossing grenades in the room, a lot of times it's gonna center around our esteemed leader, one Donald John Trump, right? So it's yeah, it it comes up, it comes up a little bit. So you want to discuss.

Charles Hundley Jnr: Mm-hmm. Yeah, sometimes.

Moore To Consider: I guess what you'd say is a recent support of a certain percentage assigned to those that would identify as MAGA and whether they're on board with Trump two point ⁓ Fair? Knock yourself out. Talk to me. What you got?

Charles Hundley Jnr: Yes. Yes. So I I've I remember a few months ago that CNN put up that poll that essentially ⁓ Trump had a hundred percent support rating from ⁓ from MAGA and I'm like okay, that's that's fine. And but I I'm still hearing it. I'm hearing these people say MAGA's still strong and MAGA's not fracturing and so on and so forth. But they're not being pressed on that. 'Cause really the next logical question would be, well, what about the people that left MAGA? So he's getting support from the people who are still there, but unfortunately that number is shrinking. And it doesn't matter if he's got a hundred s hundred percent support of them.

Moore To Consider: Mm-hmm. No, I understand the math exactly. What you're saying is if we have a hundred people, we all agree on something, and 10 people leave and 90 people still agree, 90 people stay and they still agree. And you said, Hey, what percent of you 90 still believe in the cause? 100% of us. That's what you're saying. And then if it's down to 60 people, instead of saying it's 60% of what was MAGA, they're gonna go, no, no, no. All the people that are MAGA still support MAGA, so it's 100%. Yeah.

Charles Hundley Jnr: Yes. Yeah, that and that's what's happening. Yes. And but that and that's what the MAGA people keep saying. But the the question is, does he still have a hundred percent or what is his percentage of support from the people who voted for him last time? That's the question. You know?

Moore To Consider: No, I mean that's that's that's again, if it's a room full of a hundred people and they were all pulling the lever for Trump November twenty twenty four and we come back to the room and it's thirty seven people in the room left, you could go, Hey, you thirty seven, what percent of you still agree with Trump? A hundred percent, but sixty-three people left the room.

Charles Hundley Jnr: No, no, no. I'm no, I'm saying something different. But I'm saying something exactly. Yeah. Those people did leave the room.

Moore To Consider: Yeah, sixty three percent sixty three of them left the room already.

Charles Hundley Jnr: So a hundred percent of MAGA right now would not be able to win a national election. That's the problem.

Moore To Consider: A hundred percent of what is MAGA now.

Charles Hundley Jnr: Ye well, I'm just saying, regardless of what the number is, a hundred percent of MAGA would not be able to win a national election because it took more than a hundred percent of MAGA to do it in the first place. Yeah, so they can holler that all day long that a hundred percent of MAGA still supports him, that's fine. Also the the other thing I'm seeing is ⁓ Trump is undefeated when it comes to the primaries and so on and so forth.

Moore To Consider: That's another whole argument, but I agree with you.

Charles Hundley Jnr: ⁓ okay. Well what's gonna happen when they actually go against the other side? Because we're back to that how many of those people percentage wise actually supported these candidates or this side of the aisle in the previous election? I just about guarantee it's not the same. It's gonna be a lot smaller. But these people living in a fantasy land thinking that, ⁓ well, ⁓ all the mega people I know, ⁓ Okay, that's nice. We're all the mega people, but unfortunately, even if a hundred percent of you people voted, you're not gonna win a national election. You're just not. The numbers aren't there. And

Moore To Consider: Well, okay, but th like I said, there's two things about that. And I agree with you. There there's two things about that. Some of it is the non MAGA that had to cross over to vote for him regardless of whether they identified or not. But the other is the MAGA plus them in 2024 won the election. Now MAGA is a percentage of what MAGA used to be. And then the non MAGA that had to come in and align with MAGA. You know, now they've seen enough to go like, Hey, maybe I did the wrong thing. Dave Smith being a perfect example. What did Dave Smith say in twenty twenty-four? Even Joe Rogan given that endorsement at the end, it was kind of like, ⁓ given the alternative, I think we need to go with Trump. And, you know, and Dave Smith says he's getting a lot of you know, some of the the broadcast I've heard him do recently or the podcast, he gets a lot of heat about, Hey dude, how'd you get off? You know he goes, No, no, I was never really big Trump, but given the alternative in twenty twenty four, I said I'm more than willing to say best thing to do is go with Trump. Didn't take him long you know, into twenty twenty five to go now on on second thought, no. But he was never MAGA. He was part of that group, like you say, that identifies as non MAGA that went along with MAGA. But

Charles Hundley Jnr: Yeah, I'm and I'm one of those people. So but they think that just because ⁓ they people like me supported him this time or last time, that we're on the MAGA train. No, I was actually never on the MAGA train. I never was. And there's a whole lot of people like me and if their election were today, I guarantee he would lose. I d I just do. Because there's so many people that are just fed up with what's going on.

Moore To Consider: All right, but that's a great question. That's a great question to explore. Do you think if we could move the clock back to November 2024, Kamala Harris, in whatever state she was in at that time, ⁓ or I'm sorry, her today well even move her back to where she was then, or I don't think she's helped her image at all in the last 18 months or whatever, what's almost two years, but You can go back and take her and run her against where Trump is now. Do you think she'd win? Wow. I'm not sure you're not right. I'm not sure you're not right. Wow.

Charles Hundley Jnr: Yes. Yeah. Yeah, I do. I do. Is th th I look at it this way. I was never expecting anything from Kamala.

Moore To Consider: Mm-hmm.

Charles Hundley Jnr: But Trump was saying all the things that people wanted to hear, unfortunately, didn't really do all the stuff. And we've talked about, you know, what exactly our priorities were, our number one priorities when it comes to supporting a candidate. I I get all that. But whether you're on the right or the left, I don't think you expected this. Especially and you know what I let me let me back up. If you're on the right. I don't think you expected this. I don't think you expected five dollar a gallon gas and so on and so forth. This is no, this is not what I was expecting. And okay, how do we get here? Because you were promising under two dollar a gallon gas. He was he was pushing that. He you were promising no more new wars, no more regime changes. This is what you were literally campaigning on. Literally. And

Moore To Consider: No, no. No, you're absolutely right. That's right. Absolutely right. And I think the one you just said, or the one you started with, I remember, I remember the gas prices getting to where they were in like 2019 pre-COVID. Because I remember I'm, you know, a product of this country just like you are. And I remember you I used to think like, can a novice, can a person on the apprenticeship, you know, pretty well educated, I guess, but a New York tycoon in construction or not, whatever the hell he was, good, good businessman, awful businessman, whatever he was, can anyone that disconnected from the system come in and literally be president of the United States? And as we, you know, went through 17 and 18 and then on to 19, with the way things were going, I'm like, well, what the hell? I think the guy's got pretty much got a hang of it. I didn't think at any point he ever trusted the right people. And I've talked to you about that. I'm not in his position. I have no idea what the hell I'm talking about, really. But this you and I are the same, like we've read the same books. We've come to the same political conclusions, you know, the people that we think of as quote unquote libertarian, classical, liberal, whatever. But we have the people that we kind of look at. Ayn Rand certainly influenced me a lot on how I see things. So we've read all those kind of books. I can't believe that you were if you became president tomorrow, you wouldn't say. Find me one guy in Washington, D.C. that knows the swamp. Try to vet the people looking, but give me one guy, and every time, you're my guy. I would be, I'm in that position. I go, Charles, you're like, mm-mm. No, no. I know the history on that guy. Next guy comes in the door. You can trust him, but only this much. And I'm gonna keep looking at you. First, I gotta trust you. I gotta have some experts go find you. You follow what I'm saying. And you are a swamp expert.

Charles Hundley Jnr: Yes.

Moore To Consider: And I gotta believe you're non swamp, but you know the swamp. Okay. You're my guide out there when I go hunt in the jungle or I, you know, I go up some mountaintop or something. You're my guide guy. My guy guide guy. So every time I look around, who the hell was that for Trump? Because, like you said, he kept picking guys, and you're gonna be like, ⁓ that guy's the biggest deep state, you know, whatever. And then he gets screwed by him, and then he's sitting there trying to put out fires all the time. I would just think you would go and say, find me that guy. And I'll hide him in the I'll hide him in the office where nobody knows that I'm actually going to ⁓

Charles Hundley Jnr: Well, that was his first term. His second term, it was pretty clear that he had gotten a message about the well, so we thought. ⁓ yes, so but a good portion of things that he's done this time, Congress didn't have a lot of control over it. He he did this himself.

Moore To Consider: Well I think you did a hit a better grasp of who the players were, yeah. A bit more self inflicted. No, they sure haven't.

Charles Hundley Jnr: He dis did this himself contrary to what the people who were around him, specifically the intelligence agencies, our own t man our own intelligence agencies. And maybe it's a case of him not trusting them because of what happened the last time. Okay, that's fine, whatever. Then you should have done nothing instead of done what you did.

Moore To Consider: No, you're right. Yeah. But haven't that's a great that's a great, great point. That's a great point. Because I remember the heat he got about, ⁓ gosh, what was the dispute with with what Putin said? Putin said I ⁓ I think it was wasn't it I didn't have anything to do with the election in twenty sixteen and they were trying to push that what what was the issue? There was an issue and Trump at some kind of a summit or something with Putin goes, Hey, I believe him. He told me he didn't have anything to do with it, you know. And then and then and then ⁓ like Rachel Maddles hair, her pants were on fire, all these people like, how dare he get right in front of this collection of agencies, the alphabet agencies, and ever question American intelligence and the rest. And I'm thinking, like, I kind of get it. But what it was is there it is again. He's a Russian puppet. He's standing in front of America saying that Putin was right and our intelligence agencies were wrong. And I think he had a pretty good reason to believe they were all cooking the books against him. Go ahead.

Charles Hundley Jnr: Right. ⁓ Well but what do you do in a case where you have hand picked the people that you want in charge of the intelligence agencies and even then they say, No, you shouldn't do this, but you do it anyway.

Moore To Consider: Well, that's what I was gonna say. Yeah. Right. That okay. Let's say the first time he's he doesn't know what the hell he's doing. I think there's a pretty good argument for that. Is as far as knowing who to trust and what the apparatus is in DC. You know, and there's people that would argue he didn't even think he was gonna win in twenty sixteen. And at the election night's like, ⁓ should I I really gotta do this now? I gotta be there in January. ⁓ my gosh, you know, I who knows. It was just I never thought it was a ploy to grow the apprentice. I never believed that. And I do think that the ⁓ the the the dinner where he got shot at this year, ⁓ the correspondence dinner, that was the one when Obama made the jokes about him, however many years before he ran. You know, and people have identified that moment as saying that's when he's like, Okay, okay, I'm gonna run and I'm gonna win. Who knows what his motivations were? But I do think there's the argument that by twenty twenty-five

Charles Hundley Jnr: Mm-hmm.

Moore To Consider: He should have been in a better position to appoint people that he could trust better than he did in twenty seventeen. And now you're saying those people that were in positions of trustworthiness are saying, Don't do it, and he did it anyway. Yeah, I agree. I I see what you're saying. Yeah.

Charles Hundley Jnr: He did. Right, exactly. That's cause that's exactly what happened. So he he turned his back, I shouldn't say turn his back, he didn't listen to anybody who he handpicked pretty much. And the only peop person that I can think of right now, 'cause really, who's left? Who's left? Rubio and Hegsa.

Moore To Consider: That's about yeah.

Charles Hundley Jnr: They're the only two left. Het Seth is ⁓ being a soldier. If that and that will be my defense of it. He's being a soldier because the commander in chief sa has told him you need to execute this war and he's doing it. He may not agree with it. ⁓ yeah, and

Moore To Consider: Cash Patel is still in his position though, right? But Bondi's gone. ⁓ Tulsi Gabbard has left for whatever personal reasons. I mean, Bobby Kennedy in the position he's in, Bobby Kennedy Jr., he but he's been quieted down quite a bit.

Charles Hundley Jnr: Yeah. Yeah, but honestly, when it comes to the thing well, I I you can't say the health and human services isn't Yes, exactly.

Moore To Consider: I'm thinking about the front the frontline stars. The kind of the frontline stars. It was all of them had capes on and like look who he's you know, he's brought a bunch of Democrats. Hm? Yes, yes. Now that thing has gone away pretty quick. And I mean Vivek Vivek remember was another one kind of the all stars. I don't what do you even hear from him anymore, really? I mean, so

Charles Hundley Jnr: The Avengers. Yes. Yeah. Yes, it has. I think he won his primary.

Moore To Consider: Yeah, but I'm I mean, he's certainly not on the national stage talking any ⁓ you know, anymore about how much he loves Trump or that Trump's doing all the right things or anything. He's

Charles Hundley Jnr: He probably wants to be distanced distance from Trump.

Moore To Consider: I think so. Absolutely. After yeah, yeah.

Charles Hundley Jnr: He's running for governor of Ohio. He probably does not want to have anything to do with him. ⁓ but Trump again should have listened to what his people, his people he picked, told him and he didn't. He listened to somebody else.

Moore To Consider: Well, you know, we we we addressed this in the last show and I went back and kind of listened to it. I'm like, what points are we making? I still said, we went round and round about this, but the way my mind works, and maybe I'm wrong, but I think when you're given a set of choices, you have it it's anywhere on a spectrum. There's one end of the spectrum to the other. Use a football field, goal line to the other y other goal, a hundred yards. That's probably not a good one, but you got a zero to a hundred. And there's sometimes you're like, you know, the choice is a hundred. It's that. You take that choice. It's clear. It's 100% that's the way to go. And then sometimes you're measuring the potential for good versus the pain. And I hear what you're saying. I think that there was a birdie on his shoulder saying, all of your advisors are saying, stay out of this. And there's going to be him looking at that choice. And then if he makes the choice to stay out of it, Or you make the choice not to get in it. Don't take military actions. Don't start sending things into the sky. Once you do that, in your mind you have to go. And if I don't do that, there's going to be an alternative scenario. Something else could happen. Or nothing could happen. There could be no downside. Again, the 100% is I choose to do that, and there is no downside. That's the only choice. So, like I said last time, if he does it. And it's so clear to people, and it's really 180 degrees against all of his campaign promises, there's something else going on that's making him think the pain of not going into Iran and doing whatever he's going to do, the pain of not doing it, is going to be greater than the restraint of not going in. To me, that's clear.

Charles Hundley Jnr: I I just personally think it's a ego issue. And I don't say that too often about politicians. I th I think it's a it's a ego issue because he well first of all it's not gonna happen. It's they've already failed. So but I do think i well they're not gonna do it's no it's not gonna be any regime change in in ⁓ in Iran. It's not.

Moore To Consider: No, I don't think that's that's I don't think that's off the mark either. I don't. I I get what you're saying. What's not gonna happen? What's who's already ⁓ yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, right. Th that main objective type of thing's already failed. Yeah. Yeah.

Charles Hundley Jnr: Right, it's failed. So I r I truly believe he wanted a feather in his cap to say they've been trying to do it for almost fifty years and I found I got it done. Now now you tried and failed after everybody told you not to try. We told you not to do this. You didn't listen to us. And now you have egg on your face. Y now you wanted to to go in what is it? One of the pl ⁓ peace plan, quote unquote peace plans and well

Moore To Consider: No, that's true. Yeah. Still think

Charles Hundley Jnr: ⁓ Iran has to open the open the Strait of Hormuz. Well it was open before. Right. It was open before. So why do we have to, you know, spend billions upon billions and I I heard this. In fifty nine days, the amount of ⁓ ordinance that we've used is gonna take, I think, four to five years to replenish. I why?

Moore To Consider: Right. Wow. Wow.

Charles Hundley Jnr: Why? Unless unless you just gave four to five years of contracts to the military industrial complex.

Moore To Consider: Yeah. I still think though it it's so much easier to keep the powder dry. If circumstances change, you know, then you go in, you you make some choices to go. The fact as as you're saying, if you've got that much of the people you hand picked saying, Don't do it, don't do it, don't do it, and you do it, I think there's something more driving it. And you've you've alluded to what you think that something is, and I agree. I think there has to be greater some greater force saying, Nah, you're gonna have to do it. And there's a reason why he feels that's true.

Charles Hundley Jnr: Ego. ⁓ it's So y y if you have an ego, especially a big one, you're pretty easily manipulated. You are. And I think he got manipulated by somebody who kinda wants that to happen anyway.

Moore To Consider: Mm. Now there's two different things here, because when you said that, my mind went to certain situations I've been in. I've always thought the ones that have been labeled as being more egotistical, they're not easily moved around. Like they will almost in an obstinate fashion just do whatever they want to do. Right? You're giving me the look, but but you get right, you okay. You say he's egotistical, right?

Charles Hundley Jnr: Yeah, I don't I don't agree with that man. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty clear.

Moore To Consider: He's got a group ⁓ okay. You said he's egotistical and egotistical people are are led around or t their arms are twisted or something of that nature. Did not not what you s are manipulated. Okay, okay. You're saying they're easily manipulated. Well, the very people that he handpicked to be this power structure to help him, they didn't manipulate him. They told him straight up, don't do this, and he did it anyway.

Charles Hundley Jnr: No, no, no, they're easily manipulated. ⁓ remember though, remember, those people aren't stroking his ego because they're telling him you can't do this. There was a person who was stroking his ego who had also

Moore To Consider: I gotcha. I gotcha. I gotcha. Okay. Cause I was thinking about a certain personal situation and it was almost as if a group of us in a certain situation would try to tell the person that this is the way to go, would never listen to us, you know, and then do it his own way. But now that I think of what you're saying, you're saying the easy the easy manipulation was coming from those who were stroking. I'm with you, brother. I'm absolutely my apologies because I see what you're saying now. You're you're saying because I

Charles Hundley Jnr: Yeah.

Moore To Consider: I was thinking in terms of what you're saying, you've got the whole group of people that are begging them to do the right thing and they can't manipulate them, but they're not trying to manipulate them. They're trying to educate them and they're trying to get them to do the right thing. The ones that came in to manipulate are like, no, no, dude, you're a big guy. You're gonna you're gonna go down in history. It's really important because yeah, I'm with you. That's actually a pretty that's I think that's dead on analysis. I think that's a good point. Yeah.

Charles Hundley Jnr: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And unfortunately, we're the ones that are suffering for it.

Moore To Consider: Well sure. Come hell or high water. That's always where the American people are. Which I remember years ago in a college class when I was teaching, you know, and you've heard me say this a million times. I always think about that Cronkite and Eisenhower 64 on the beaches of Normie, black and white film. They go into the room where the big the where the big map's still on the wall, and he was talking about. We were gonna go June fourth, things didn't, you know, then I get the re weather report fifth, it's gonna be a monsoon, and we keep pushing back and we have an open window June sixth D Day, right? And as he's talking about sending thousands of American troops to a certain death, he he gets a little, you can tell choked up, and I'm thinking, that's the guy I want to be president. I want that guy to be president. Cause he's recognizing some couple in Topeka, Kansas, they're losing their precious baby boy on the shores of Normandy, right? I don't want somebody just like their chess pieces. And I know that we've had administrations that are losing people's kids in theaters around the world and they don't give a shit. Charles, brother, I can't I can't imagine sending people's into harm's people young men and women into harm's way and not caring. That's that's evil. Brother, that's bad. It's terrible.

Charles Hundley Jnr: I agree, but there are people

Moore To Consider: Now, Eisenhower in his service may have had something to do with that. You know, he's a two-term president, but he's also Supreme Commander of Allied Forces in Europe with five stars. Maybe those experiences changed him and made him a different president. But you look at his eight-year history. We get out of Korea. No countries really fall to communism during that period. It's not like perfect, you know, it's not like there's not some unrest, but it's a pretty good period economically and alike. The 50s are pretty good. When it comes to decades, 50s are pretty good, right? There's some advancement in certain areas. Still domestically, we got to go through the 60s. The 60s have to get there. Nothing's perfect, but I don't think the Eisenhower administration was bad times. And it's a guy that some people are like, well, he's not he's not qualified to be a president. He's not a politician. Yeah, he's a five-star general. You know, who's a full colonel about his way out when the war started and he escalated pretty fast.

Charles Hundley Jnr: Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Moore To Consider: But I'm kind of fascinated fascinated with Eisenhower. Maybe I'm wrong. You know, his mother's from the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia. Did you know that? So there's a little bit of a connection to Virginia too. That's what I remember reading. Yes.

Charles Hundley Jnr: Okay. Yeah, Trump is again just put himself in a bad position. One that people warn him about. He discounted everything that the people that he handpicked around to put around him said not to do. And he let his ego ⁓ trick I shouldn't say he let his ego get the best of him and he was tricked into doing what what he did.

Moore To Consider: We yeah. Yeah, I mean, more and more I think that assessment that it's an ego situation or whatever is kinda hard to argue with. ⁓ I don't know. I really don't I don't I don't know what the answer is and I don't know if I see much chance for things to work in a better direction. But we are quickly approaching the midterms and then it's gonna be wherever we are the two years after that to see what's gonna happen next.

Charles Hundley Jnr: That's

Moore To Consider: ⁓ let me just say this real quick to all the listeners too. I was listening to a guy the other day and he had an astorian on and he was doing a deep dive on Washington and it was George Washington. And it was, you know, pretty strong on the side of Washington being pretty good. He goes the one thing about him is he was an ambitious person. He wasn't a wallflower. He was he was a tough dude, you know, and he liked he was ambitious and he liked limelight. You know, you can't make him out to be not a guy that was kind of, you know, into the sound of his own voice. But he also had a lot of restraint. And so the guy that's interviewing this historian goes, if he came back today, what would shock him the most? And he goes, Well, not just according to the occupant thereof today, he would be shocked by the power of the presidency. He goes, The only time it's mentioned, I think he's probably right about this, is Article Two. It is a heavily like Congress runs the country. The president signs bills or vetoes bills and is the commander in chief. So they had a military aspect, commander in chief. But who was going to put the troops in harm's way? Congress, Article 1, Section 8. He goes, it would shock him today how much the president can do to unilaterally often screw the country from that position. And I remember as I grew up, and he said it all changed really with the American Civil War, began to go into certain situations.

Charles Hundley Jnr: Mm-hmm.

Moore To Consider: And then by the early 20th century with the progressive movement and the 17th Amendment, all the things we've discussed before, it it turned into the view that this leader of the free will, that's a post-World War II type of term. But you know what I'm saying? The very fact that we as a country look at the presidency as being that important is kind of scary.

Charles Hundley Jnr: Agree. Yeah.

Moore To Consider: Wouldn't you feel a lot better, a lot better if 435 people plus 100, you know, the the five hundred and thirty-five people, the hundred and the four thirty-five, were actually going in and having huge debates about whether to commit troops to war? Then one guy goes, That's it, pull the trigger, let's go. Shit, that's kind of scary.

Charles Hundley Jnr: Well, they they do have the power, they just haven't exercised it.

Moore To Consider: That's true. That that's true. Right. And I didn't I misspoke in saying that that's not the way the the the the Constitution is written, but they've worked in all these ways around it where we basically have, if it's a madman, mad woman, mad whoever, they got the unilateral power to screw up the world. Last thoughts going out.

Charles Hundley Jnr: I agree. I don't know how this is gonna turn around. it's only gonna get worse for the fact that the the Democrats are gonna take control come November. And at the very least they're not gonna do anything. And it didn't have to be this way. It it really didn't. The if he had just done what he said what he what he had campaigned on, I really believe that the the Republicans would have gained more seats in both houses. But this turnaround, him turning around has forced a lot of people that supported him to turn around also. And they're they're gonna have to deal with it. And the Republicans have to deal with it.

Moore To Consider: Mm-hmm. To close the loop a little bit from where the show started, I'm doing a little research here online, and it basically says, yes, Trump is losing support among the MAGA base based upon the number of people that identify as Republican and MAGA. So back in April of 2025, 57% of people who said I'm a Republican identified as MAGA. Now it's down to 50. So

Charles Hundley Jnr: Sorry.

Moore To Consider: 57% of people who said I'm a Republican identified as MAGA. Now it's down to 50. You're right. There's been some wordplay. It's just basically what's coming from this is that the number of people who are Republican may or people may still, there are a number of people that may still identify as Republican, but not the other part. So MAGA is shrinking. But again, and that was good at the start. You kind of hit that thing. But the word play is ⁓ a hundred percent of the people that identify as MAGA still support me. Well, yeah. 100% of the people that still say they're mega.

Charles Hundley Jnr: Right.

Moore To Consider: But not a hundred percent of Republicans, not that it ever I I guess what some of the highest numbers were probably sixty, sixty-five percent said they were MAGA at one point. So now it's down to fifty. So what it's saying is the number of MAGA is slipping. And I'm telling you, and this is what I've said before, I think when they go to impeach Trump with this new house in twenty twenty f ⁓ seven, when the new house comes in, I'm not sure there's not some Republicans because I'm telling you, there's still people out there seething that Donald Trump of all people.

Charles Hundley Jnr: Right.

Moore To Consider: Took over the country club Republicans and turned it into something else. Working class people, union types, and all the rest. I think they're pissed about that. And they want their their George Bush party back. I really do. And I think they're going to use this opportunity. Because he's lame duck. If he comes back in 27 and he's lost the house, I don't know that they can't muster up 12, 13 Republicans in the Senate to vote him out. And then it well, then it gives them their shot to reconstruct the party.

Charles Hundley Jnr: Hago? I guess. I mean

Moore To Consider: Don't you think there's party types that want to reconstruct it and forget that Trump ever existed?

Charles Hundley Jnr: Unfortunately it doesn't matter because that we can talk about that some other time. 'Cause yeah. Yes.

Moore To Consider: Yeah, let's talk about that at some other time. Okay. So this has been more to consider. Like, subscribe, please, share with others and make comments. Charles, love having you on always. ⁓ so let's do this again soon. Thank you, listeners. Bye now.

Charles Hundley Jnr: Yes. Why?